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What is it with people called Green?

Posted by Ben on Thursday, December 15, 2005 | Permalink

Brace yourselves as we sally forth into the shadowy realms of the Leicester Mercury's letters page, to bask in the gentle decency and intellectual rigour of Dr D R J Green. Dr. Green's letter is entitled 'Why We Need Censorship'. Oh dear.

Some highlights.

Any assault on the faith of the people of Leicestershire should be unacceptable in the same way that we have laws which aim to prevent, quite rightly, racially-motivated attacks.

No person should be allowed to be deliberately offensive to other members of our community, and I applaud Woolworths and Sainsbury's for the action they have taken.

Censorship is unfortunately a necessity in our modern society so that the impressionable and less discerning are not corrupted by the modern-day filth that we seem to experience more of.

There have been clear instances where some films and games have made such an impression that some of those who have watched or played them have transformed fantasy into reality and gone on to commit serious crime.

If censorship prevents even one crime, then it has made life in our society more tolerable.

His 'films and games' example shows what shaky ground he's on. What does the topic of violence in TV and video games have to do with censorship of material that's offensive to religion, such as JS:TO? Bugger all, he's just tried to move smoothly on to a different topic without admitting it. How many people have been incited to run amok after watching the Life of Brian? I saw JS:TO last year and have so far utterly failed to glass a pensioner in the face. In truth, the appalling reactions always seem to come from the 'offended' side - JS:TO and the charity blackmailers, the Bhezti riots, the Salman Rushdie fatwa, the murder of Theo Van Gogh. These are the people that wail about our lack of morality, the sad decline of religious faith, the disgusting filth we inflict on the "impressionable and less discerning" (nicely patronising, Dr Green, good job you're here to look after the dopey fuckers that make up the general public). He seems to favour a police state, with his "No person should be allowed to be deliberately offensive" and "If censorship prevents even one crime" bollocks. People have murdered in the name of God, would Green like us to ban the Bible, so that won't happen again? After all, if it prevents one crime...

He also fails to note that faith is a belief, whereas race is not - one has a choice about the former, not the latter. Does he think assaults on other beliefs should also be outlawed? What about Green's views on censorship? Personally I find them offensive, can we get him silenced? We'll just have to bin politics in general, to be honest, if we're going down that path.

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Yes, and I think we can also blame censorship for the Holocaust, the Gulag and the atrocities in Tibet.

If there had been no censorship is it really conceivable that these awaful events could have occurred, or at least would they not have been perhaps less devastating and inhumane.

One can always have a debate about what should be approved of in society. But that it is not the same as legal censorship - which should be used very sparingly, if at all.
field, 19.12.2005, 10:23pm #
I think the point was that censorship is a bad thing and can have bad consequences. Not that censorship is responsible for every conceivable crime.
Tim, 20.12.2005, 4:10pm #
And that the people who always bang on about the merits of censorship tend to be hypocrites.
Tim, 20.12.2005, 7:07pm #
Sorry, must have been half asleep, missed point ...
Tim, 23.12.2005, 11:26pm #
Hello there.
I'm almost afraid to say I'm a Christian. But I guess the cat is out of the bag.

I can feel your pain. Censorship and prohibitions have always failed to bring about any good. Goodness comes from morality, not civil enactments. The best we can come up with in this secular world is the law of equal protection. It doesn't solve every problem, but it creates the best atmosphere for peace in society.

Civil government should never attempt morality. That is out of civil government's jurisdiction. Here in America, our Constitution has tried its best to keep government away from morality, to leave that to the church. Unfortunately, the church has failed at her charge.

Us Christians have really blown it and I don't blame you for being angry.
I'm sorry for our misbehavior and bad track record and self-justification. Maybe someday we will do better.

In the meantime, we must hold the separation between church and state. Keep the government in the business of civil matters only and not let the church convince the people that it needs the government to help them, in any country. We are facing this very thing here in America and it scares me, as I'm sure it would you. And if it happens here, it will not be confined to us. The whole world would come under its umbrella.

Talk about another Papacy and Inquisition, if it happened, your blogsite would be out of business for good. You could fight tooth and nail, but it would do you no good.

Take care, brother.
David, 13.02.2006, 1:48am #
hi i am david's daughter, dont worry im not affended by your words. i am, as what you can say, someone who agrees with you. though i cant say that every religion is total bullshit. its just some have some qualities of shitiness to them-lol. i say this because im a wiccan and even till this day, people think im a satanist and that i should be burned to a stake....yeah... such nice people we have in this world. personally i think someone needs to do something about it, instead of just sitting around and not proving a point. really nothing gets done until you talk to the right people. good luck!

p.s. its always good to get a group of people who are not wimps and who that have the same goal. find some background on the guy and use it against him, by spreading the info to the public. very easy and you cant get arrested if its nothing but the truth and your not disrupting the public in the process. oh and the internet was a great way of doing so-goodnight.
Betania, 13.02.2006, 2:18am #

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