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"Secualr Islam"

Oh do come on!

The word of the so-called "prophet" is the law, including all the horrible things that happen to unbelievers.

Before anyone is gullible enoughto fall for this greasy collection of soft soap, I suggest that they look here:
http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/quran/int/long.html

And at the main-page above it.

That should set the record stariaght.

G. Tingey, 21.03.2007, 9:20am #

Secular and moderate Islamists are the ones who need to stand up to fight radical and fundamentalist Islam.

All the crap the world is going through because of radical Islam is coming from the fight against Western secularism, globalization, westernization, and Americanization. (Insert 's' for 'z' for my across the pond friends.) A good article about this comes from Newsweek (pre-Gulf War II.) Actually, I recommend three articles --

http://www.fareedzakaria.com/articles/newsweek/101501_why.html

www2.volstate.edu/kbell/Articles/MythosVLogos.htm

www.fpri.org/enotes/200609.religion.forte.islamtrajectory.html

By reading these three articles you can gain a better understanding why I said the above.

JGJ, 26.03.2007, 9:55pm #

I think he is asking us to become Muslims, but don't quote me. :/ Actually, I think he is lumping all of Islam into one great big pot, and concluding there can be no secularism within a religious society, especially a Muslim one. Certainly, there are those Islamists, such as those who follow Wahabbism, whose goal includes the fight against the spread of secular governments, but how does he explain that here in the U.S. there are over 6 million Muslims who live under a secular government without fighting it if all Muslims are completely anti-secularists.

Islam is going through a turbulent period; it is a period not unlike the events that led to the Catholic Reformation. Before the Reformation the Catholics, too, killed those who disagreed. They sought out those who were different and chose persecution over tolerance. Why do they do this? Is it from fear that if those who question their beliefs become loud enough they will be laughed at? No. It is actually simpler than the psyche of a collective. Reason, logic, and even common sense are a threat to their authority and freedom to do what they want, to whom they want. Everyday, the Islamists’ backward world is bombarded by the power and attractive modernity of the western world, and they feel threatened by it. Their only hope is to remove the Western world. They cannot stand up to us militarily, face to face, so they use terror. They incorrectly assumed that terror, alone, can bring down civilization. So, 9/11 showed their desire to hit us financially. Strike the infrastructures of government and finance. We can only hope that moderate Muslims, and those Muslims who believe in secular governments, will stand up and speak like what they are trying to do in Egypt.
But, anyhoooo, I’m starting to ramble.

JGJ, 27.03.2007, 4:29am #

Ah G., I see where you are going wrong. You are thinking 'secular' is defining part of the religion. It is not, it is defining the way they would like their government, and that is promising.

"We insist upon the separation of religion from state and the observance of universal human rights."

Certainly, you cannot have secular as part of a religious belief. It would be saying 'a cold heat wave' or 'sexual promiscuity through complete abstinence,' it would not make sense.

JGJ, 29.03.2007, 11:21am #

datz not fair...........no 1 shud b allowed to say enefin bwt ene1s religion or their prophetz..........no matter hu day r or wot dey believe in n to mock it is anova offence!!!!!!!!! giv dem deir respect rather than insultin dem...............

qq, 25.06.2007, 5:17pm #