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Leading a Double Life Doesn't Make You a Superhero

Posted by Ben on Tuesday, December 13, 2005 | Permalink
 

Despite the fact that it actually validates their existence and gives fuel to fevered 'look at me!' fantasies for at least a month, there comes a time when a website's trolls must be dealt a swift kicking, if only because it's rather fun.

Actually, the first offender may not be a troll, merely dishonest or deluded, but the irony is too good to be allowed to languish in the comments. Early on in this thread, Axis said "if there is no God, you are the last person I would want to listen to. I would want to listen to myself. I would want only what benefits me," apparently needing the threat of hellfire to keep him on the straight and narrow, which says a lot about his character. He continued "Acknowledging our wrong doings is the most difficult thing we can ever do. Even when we know we are caught, we continue to deny it," and this setup paid off in splendid style when I noticed he was plagiarising a bunch of other websites, copyright theft apparently not being one of the crimes he was referring to earlier. He also rhetorically asked "Why acknowledge our sins when we can justify them?", so I hope he'll be doing the acknowledging and not the justifying if he ever answers.

Like I say, Axis may not be a troll. Timnot4me, however, is a different matter.

He pops up now and then and says something utterly unrelated to the actual debate, often about how boring the website has become since his favourite nutcase Eternal Damantion stopped posting. Here he says that ED, as we affectionately called him, made some good points. Such as, maybe, this "TIM, SIERRA, CJ ARE YOU MORE INTELLIGENT THAN FRED HOYLE? IF THE BEST MATHEMATICIAN OF ALL TIME IS TELLING ME EVOLUTION IS BULLSHIT, I'LL BELIEVE HIM OVER YOU LOSERS. "

Timnot4me also has a thing about the comments policy of this site, issuing dire warnings about being deleted if someone says something I don't like, big meanie that I am. This was initially puzzling, as I've only ever deleted one comment and it wasn't by Timnot4me, whose pointless remarks I move to open threads so they don't break the flow.

The only comment I've ever deleted was by a character calling himself Rev_Holy_Fire. What he said was "Brother Jeff is off the web. He has obviously seen the folly of his ways. Your next!!!", on this thread about the death of WinAce. I thought this was in poor taste and deleted it. He commented again yesterday on the Emily Rose thread, talking rubbish once more.

Strangely enough, Rev_Holy_Fire's IP address is identical to Timnot4me's. There's two theories that can explain this:

(1) It's possible Timnot4me lives with Rev_Holy_Fire, and they both enjoy writing utter shit on this website.
(2) It's one person using two anonymous names. With one he poses as a left-wing Christian who considers himself separate from the fundamentalists, posting inane crap about freedom of speech despite never actually saying anything worthwhile, let alone something so diabolically controversial it needs censoring, and with the other pretends to be a fundie, trolling in so feeble a manner it's almost cute. I mean, come on - 'She was poessesed by demons, you fools!!!'? At least call someone a Nazi or something, and internet law says random SECTIONS should be IN bold!!!1 Nice misspelling though, that helps to sell it.

If it's (2) - ie, if it's also the case that the sky is blue - it explains why Timnot4me bleats about being deleted, and also establishes him as someone we can safely ignore from now on, someone who's never actually contributed anything to this site beyond half-arsed trollery.

He didn't always favour his current inoffensive 'let's be friends' line as Timnot4me, however. Back in the early days - he said, sucking thoughtfully on a briar pipe - he was the source of comments like "Stay off line permanently, you moron and take that loser Sierra with you.", "This website is bullshit, and should be removed from the www immediately. There is a very special place for you and Tim will be visiting in the future. We are going to shut this site down." and "we have two imbeciles with websites religonisbullshit.net and religionisbullshit.org promoting hate for christianity under the disguise of rational thinking" Marvellously, one of his first comments on this site came back when Tim was blogging, and he said this: "Hey Tim ,or Mr.y or Sierra whichever you claim to be today. Where's Mr.X Tim? All of a sudden he disappears? Ladies and gentlemen, Tim is Mr. X and all the alleged christians who come to this site. You are pathetic." Ladies and Gents, as Alanis once said - isn't it ironic?

Timnot4me, you've finally arrived. This is the Holy Grail of trolls - a thread devoted almost entirely to you. Take it as a dizzying high in your sad life and fuck off, there's a good lad.

Comments [ hide comments ]
Rev Holy Fire pops up at random intervals on a number of atheism sites, usually shouting something short and irrelivant like "EVOLUTION IS BULLSHIT! REPENT YOU FOOLS! JESUS SAVES!!!!". Fascinating to discover that he is also Timnot4me. I wonder what other names he's used?
Tim, 14.12.2005, 8:38pm #
Gee, my IP spoofing program is working well. It must have been a fluke.
I use ghost surf and bounce my connection off of 8 servers worldwide. Some people in Canada don't use firewalls and I easily access their computers.
You really think you have my IP address Ben?
Timnot4me, 15.12.2005, 4:15am #
BEN, TIM ,
you are pathetic losers who have nothing to contribute to this world.

Log this IP ben. Tommorow, I'll come back with a new one.
Ben = Tim , Tim is Mr. X and ED.

I figured this out months ago.

HA HA HA.
Timnot4me, 15.12.2005, 4:18am #
Tim = Sierra.

Betya ED comes back on this website.
What happened to Sierra Tim?
or Ben?

Tim , you are a fraud.
Timnot4me, 15.12.2005, 4:20am #
YOU ARE A FRAUD TIM.
Timnot4me, 15.12.2005, 4:22am #
Takes one to know one, Timnot4me....
Timdefinately4me, 15.12.2005, 6:02pm #
hehehe mental as anything...
Sarah, 15.12.2005, 6:05pm #
Sarah, go cook dinner for Tim and let him wear the pants in the family. How do you like being married to a washed up loser musician?
Timnot4me, 15.12.2005, 8:21pm #
Brother ED rules. Come on Tim, Ben (Ben = Tim), post up some ED's. Make us laugh. I've been following your website for almost a year and have figured out what's really going on.
ED was comic relief, Sierra was the right wing faccist,
CJ, or Shaggy was the young gay teen, Ben the pseudo intellectual.
None of these identities are unique people, they all come from Tim's imagination. After failing in the music industry, Tim has nothing to do but play around with his website and conjure up people out of thin air and post nonsense.
TIM, YOU ARE A FRAUD!!!
How do you like this IP Ben? May be Holy baloney will post using this one too. Lots of free proxy serves out there my friend.
Your full of shit!!, pea-brained moron!

LOG THIS !!!!

Asta la vista Tim.

YOU HAVE BEEN EXPOSED.

Oh yeah,
EVOLUTION IS BULLSHIT---
one for road.

Take it easy ED. Take me for a ride in your corvette.
Timnot4me, 15.12.2005, 8:33pm #
Timnot4me - *yawn*

I like it just fine thanks. Rather be married to him than a schizo like you any day.

Oh, and incidently, I can assure you Tim has plenty of things to do other than "play around with his website" which is obviously more than can be said for you, you sad moron.

God I'm bored with all this ALREADY .. c ya!
Sarah, 15.12.2005, 8:43pm #
This is brilliant, I couldn't have asked for a better response from the boy wonder! Go, Timnot4me, go! Come on, surely you can do better than 'pseudo-intellectual' with regards to me? Can't I at least be 'Ben, the pseudo intellectual with a heart of gold'? That paragraph sounds like a cast of characters in a B movie.
Ben, 15.12.2005, 10:10pm #
must ... fight ... urge ... to ... respond ... to ... troll ...

Ahh, fuck it.

Mr not4me - your response to being rumbled is to accuse me of the same thing that you are guilty of? You then seem to admit your guilt and tell us you'll be back with a different IP address (and name presumably). One question: Why? Have you nothing better to do? Is trolling on websites the nearest you get to conversing with other human beings? Why not grow up, use your real name and try to make some relevant points? Too much brain power required?

ED was rather like Rev Holy Fire - friend of yours perhaps?
Sierra - yes, he was rather unpleasantly right wing at times, although did make some interesting points along the way. But why would I go to the effort of making him up?
CJ/Shaggy - the "young gay teen"? I seem to remember him stating that he wasn't gay, just that he supported gay rights. You are clearly the type of person who thinks that if you're not homophobic you must actually be a homosexual (whereas in fact the reverse is more likely). Perhaps I'm secretly gay too, after all, if my wife wears the pants in the family ... (you also seem to think know a lot about me - I don't actually KNOW you do I?!?)
Tim, 16.12.2005, 12:08am #
Absolutely hilarious. Excellent thread.
Latin_lover, 17.12.2005, 11:50am #
Or another explanation:

Tim = BEN is LYING.

or Holy ? uses ghost surf like I do.
Timnot4me, 17.12.2005, 10:15pm #
TIM = BEN = MR.X =CJ = SIERRA = ED.

TIM IS A WASHED UP MUSICIAN, GOING NOWWHERE.

GET A LIFE TIM. I FEEL SORRY FOR YOU.

Why don't you call ED?

ha ha
Timnot4me, 17.12.2005, 10:17pm #
Hey Holy Baloney, which proxy server on ghost surf are you using?
Stop hacking people with cable modems with no firewalls. Love these idiots with wireless networks, with no security. Goes to show there are bigger idiots that Tim = Ben.
Timnot4me, 17.12.2005, 10:19pm #
No response Ben=Tim? what's the matter? Brain not working as usual?
I'm done with you.
Got better things to do then waste time with a washed up musician. Harpoon Kiss sucks!

Cya Tim=Ben.

Say Hi to Rev Holy Baloney!! and ED,Sierra, CJ, etc...

Hope you get the psychiatric treatment you desperately need.
Timnot4me, 18.12.2005, 11:03pm #
Jesus, how pathetic. I would have expected this of a fundamentalist nutjob, but not a "left wing Christian". I mean, really. Someone has the common sense to realise that someone who uses two accounts with the same IP is probably a troll, and go completely insane. You're just accusing people randomly. You'll probably call me one of Tim's incarnations next...

Also, having given much debate with Sierra, I find it extremely unlikely that he is all these different people, most of whom seem fairly moderate. I wonder what happened to him, anyway...
Latin_lover, 20.12.2005, 11:32pm #
Sorry, I meant to say "YOU go completely insane". Sort of changes the meaning.
Latin_lover, 20.12.2005, 11:33pm #
There is of course another explanation for two people with one IP, they share a computer. Lovers perhaps?
chris, 02.01.2006, 10:27pm #
Certainly a possibility, that was option 1 in the original post!

Also rather comical is that since claiming he was using an "IP spoofing program" that allowed him to access other computers, he's been cropping up crowing "log this!" with a bunch of IPs from sites such as Anonymouse and Proxywave that let you surf anonymously. We can only assume his IP spoofing program is knackered. Damn shame.
Ben, 02.01.2006, 11:41pm #
I agree with Timnot4me's explanation, i.e Ben is lying. About Ben = Tim, not sure about that one, wouldn't surprise me if that was true.

I'm unique, and there is only one of me.
I don't hack other people's computers, because it's wrong.

Be careful about using "he".
REV_HOLY_FIRE, 03.01.2006, 12:17am #
LOG THIS BEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
REV_HOLY_FIRE, 03.01.2006, 12:20am #
I'm curious, why do the most recent posts of REV_HOLY_FIRE and Ben give the same email address (evolutionbs@googlemail.com)?
Latin_lover, 03.01.2006, 3:43pm #
Latin_lover, mine is religionbs. See what RHF did there? Needle sharp, that lad.
Ben, 03.01.2006, 5:54pm #
YEAH!!!!!!
RHF, 03.01.2006, 10:34pm #
lol...i remember ED...funny guy, like those capital one commercials with the vikings...

i remember when his name was eternal damantion...taht amde me laugh

and by the way, i am not mr.X, and i don't have split personalities either, lol
Shaggy, 07.01.2006, 4:29am #
That tim, or whatever that holy spammers name is, Shows exactly why religion is ignorant.

Not too mention his type does seem to bloom alot more because of it.

The the holy spammer;

Dude noone here who actually reads these blogs cares about what you THINK is real. and its obvious you have no education, because you cannot pose a intellegent debate over it. Instead youll do what your kind has for many years, act liek idiots then claim "god told me too"

Good going tool
Science is the real God, 21.08.2012, 9:10pm #
It is bullshit, and you can barely write a coherent sentence.
Jim, 06.09.2012, 5:23pm #

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